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Which is best -MBA in finance from ISB Hyderabad or top IIMS A/B/C?

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Prakriti Sharma Posted On : January 30th, 2023
PGP from Indian School of Business (Graduated 2019)

ISB Hyderabad is known for its lack of specialization in Finance. It’s a common understanding now that even if one is preferring ISB Hyderabad for admission, they know that they should go for anything but Finance. Studying some aspects will give you a deeper insight as to why MBA in Finance from ISB Hyderabad is not recommended.

Faculty: Although the visiting faculty is quite decent, it’s the domestic faculty that has ruined the culture at ISB. They are arrogant, pathetic, and extremely incapable. They insult the students regularly and disturb student-teacher relations.

Placements: The roles offered in Finance were below average like Operations, Sales, and BD roles. Such roles were offered in abundance by the banks or start-ups. However, the superior roles like IB/PE/VC/M&A/FP&A/Equity Research/Credit Rating/Asset Management/TAS were offered scarcely. For instance 

  • only 10 FP and A roles were allotted that too only to CAs
  • Only one Investment banking role was offered by Barclays
  • Only 5 PE/bc roles were offered and there was a strong preference for a prior IB/PE/VC experience and IIT undergraduate background.
  • One M and A role was offered only
  • 4 Asset Management and zero Equity Research and Credit Rating roles were offered.

So the best roles were offered limitedly while the batch size stood at 900. Most students ended up with unsatisfactory placements. Now you can decide whether or not to join if you are confident to face the placement scenario.

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Can a person graduating from IIMs like LIK and even the new IIMs like Ranchi and Trichy ever catch up to the graduates from ABC and get a similar package?

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Hardik Nagar Posted On : January 20th, 2023
Senior Consultant at Oracle (company)

There are three categories in which the answer can be seen:

  • Students who have graduated from IIM LIK can catch up to IIM ABC relatively easily or may end up at the same level by the end of their postgraduate program. IIM Trichy will eventually catch up with IIM LIK, though it may take around 5 years. IIM Ranchi, on the other hand, will take longer to reach the same level.
  • IIM LIK catching up with IIM ABC may take 3-8 years. With the presence of good FMCG/Consulting/Financial Services Companies, a jump or two could bring them to the same level. IIM Trichy and Ranchi will take a very long time to catch up with IIM ABC in this category.
  • The top 10% of students from IIM LIK and IIM ABC evolved as toppers after at least 18 months of hard work. There will be a significant difference between anyone in this category, regardless of whether they are from IIM ABC or LIK. While there may be a difference in starting packages due to the reputation of the institute, it will be made up for in subsequent years. It is not clear how long it will take for students from IIM Trichy or Ranchi to reach this level.
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Is it worth to join in IIM Nagpur? How far it is comparable with old IIMs? How about ROI there

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Richa Choudhary Posted On : January 17th, 2023
MBA from Indian Institute of Management, Nagpur (2022)

Let’s compare IIM Nagpur with the older IIMs generally. IIM Nagpur lacks in the following aspects

  • Permanent Campus
  • Permanent faculty 
  • Good number and standard of peers

But what’s amazing is that these shortcomings don’t bring down their worth even a bit. It has more merits than demerits. Some include

  • IIM Ahmedabad’s mentorship brings in the best faculties and helps maintain a learning environment.
  • Various industry interaction programs are held to inculcate management skills and live experiences 
  • It enjoys a good location advantage as it attracts companies from around the country 
  • The Foreign Exchange Program provides excellent exposure to the international corporate world
  • Lower fees compared to other IIMs
  • The hostel and infrastructure facility are at par with that of other IIMs.

Coming to the ROI, IIM Nagpur definitely excels at this one. This is because its fees are lower than other IIMs while the packages offered are almost similar. At the end of the day what matters is that despite being a new IIM it has grown leaps and bounds and it is expected to do more in the future.

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How good is IIM Lucknow as compared to IIM A, B, C, and ISB for Consulting and Network Building?

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Saher Zehra Posted On : January 16th, 2023
Former PhD Candidate at Indian Institute of Management Lucknow (2017–2020)

In India, IIM Lucknow is worth far more than ISB, particularly in MNCs and finance/marketing jobs.

The talk of a consulting and network-building pedigree revolves more around their flagship PGPX program and their tentacles in Microsoft and Cisco, both of which recognize the limited role of an MBA in their industry and provide well-defined jumps to ISB graduates back on campus. In the last 2-3 years, IIM Lucknow has done fairly well in global placements, and the sky is the limit for the right student.

It is clear that your decision should be motivated by your prospects of performance at either campus and should be carefully considered. 

It is true that those who can balance pressures and perform consistently have an advantage when it comes to placements on campus. Also, mobility in the industry should matter without the help of your b-school label and should be about your performance on the job in making friends. Students from each campus meet everyone on an equal footing in the industry.

Only if you accepted a different field in your campus placement or were assigned a backroom job will you face unequal pressure, as neither pedigree allows you much mobility.

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If IIM KI is 8/10 (ABC being 10/10) where does IIM Shillong and IIM Trichy stand?

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Sarat Chandra Posted On : January 13th, 2023
Former PhD Candidate at Indian Institute of Management Lucknow (2017–2020)

Here are my ratings for the IIMs

  • IIM Ahmedabad Bangalore Calcutta: 10
  • IIM Lucknow: 9
  • IIM Kozhikode and Indore: 7.9
  • Other second-generation IIMs: 7.6
  • New third generation IIMs: 6.8

The above rankings have been done on the basis of age, placements, and research. I don’t think these factors are enough to rank IIMs.

Another major parameter of comparison is the duration of the establishment. 

  • First generation: (est before 1984) Ahmedabad Bangalore Calcutta Lucknow 
  • Second generation: (est. before 2000) Indore and Kozhikode 
  • Third generation:  (est. around 2009) - Ranchi, Raipur, Rohtak, Trichy, Udaipur, Kashipur, Shillong
  • Fourth Generation: New IIMs (after 2014) - 7 IIMs

Most of the FT rankings and online rankings are based on this parameter. In reality, every IIM has top-notch faculty, infrastructure and placements m. Yet the new IIMs will take some time to reach the top.

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How is it like being at FMS Delhi? Would you trade your life with someone studying in top IIMs A B or C?

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Gaurav Yadav Posted On : January 10th, 2023
MBA in Marketing, Faculty of Management Studies, University of Delhi (Graduated 2002)

In comparison to the IIMs, FMS retains the advantages of small batch size and a fee structure that is relatively low. The small batch size simplifies placements significantly. With the exception of a few foreign consultancies, most of the top companies that visit the IIMs also visit FMS. Despite all of the university's bureaucracy, etc., there is a well-established alumni network that still ensures that things work out for the current batches.

Because of the small batch size, people are extremely competitive. This was in stark contrast to what you hear about the IIMs. Even though they have competition but they maintain some semblance of sanity due to the large batch. FMS can be difficult to manage at times, both in obvious behaviours and subtle actions by people you study with.

The culture at FMS is influenced by the culture of Delhi. In comparison, IIMs are unquestionably more cosmopolitan. Unless you have prior exposure, adjusting to a new environment can be difficult for people from very different cultures, such as the South or East. Otherwise, you'll have to learn to adjust the hard way. But it's still worth the effort. The people you meet in both locations are of the highest calibre. It is up to you to make the best of the situation.

Even if given the chance, there's no way one would like to trade places with the IIMs.

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My heart says FMS Delhi. My brain says IIM Calcutta. Where should I go?

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Pragya Tripathi Posted On : January 10th, 2023
Working at PhonePe (app) (2018–present)

You should make an informed and logical decision rather than being irrational and believing that your heart says something different than your mind.

Getting to FMS vs. IIMC. Both are excellent business schools that have been in operation for many years. However, there is a reason why IIM ABC is mentioned in the same breath as the top three business schools in the country. Every ranking dating back decades has confirmed this. Every Indian is aware of it. FMS, while a good B School, is not compared to IIM ABC because they are superior in every way to any other B School.

When people say that the IIM tag is important, they are correct; however, how much it matters and for which IIMs is a different stories. Even the big four - PwC, Deloitte, KPMG, and E&Y - do not rank IIM ABC and IIM LKI equally. There is a distinct distinction. The rest of the time, you can deduce how much IIM ABC command the tag value over every other IIM. When compared to colleges that are not in the top 15, the tag matters for other IIMs. So, yes, the tag is important, but it is especially important for IIM ABC, which places a high value on the tag. This label is permanent for ABC graduates, but this cannot be said for other IIM graduates.

There are no parallels between IIM Calcutta and FMC Delhi. IIM C is far superior to and ahead of FMS. FMS is simply ranked lower than IIM ABC. You should think about it and make the right decision.

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Why did you choose IIM L over FMS Delhi? I heard that FMS is at par with ABC and much better than IIM L.

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Arshit Jain Posted On : January 10th, 2023
IIM Bangalore (2020) | IIT Dhanbad (2016)

While FMS is an excellent business school, it is difficult to say whether it is on par with IIM BACs.

  • Placements: While median/average salary is one way to judge placement quality, considering the roles offered at summer and final placements is a more comprehensive way to get an idea of the quality of placements. In terms of finance and consulting firms visiting the campus for summer and final placements, IIM BAC received more diverse offers. MBB firms have begun to visit IIM L as well. 
  • International Reputation: IIMs BAC is one of the world's top business schools. Even if IIML is not widely known in the international community, the fact that it is part of the IIM family lends credibility to its name. FMS does not appear in any international rankings.
  • Student Exchange: IIMB has over 150 outgoing students and over 90 incoming students. The figures at IIML would be lower, but significantly higher than at FMS.
  • Pedagogy: The pedagogy at IIMs is a mix of case studies and class-based theoretical discussions. This provides a more in-depth understanding of various topics.
  • Campus Life: Campus life at IIMs is vibrant, whereas it is almost nonexistent at FMS.
  • Research: The research output of IIMs at BAC and even L is higher than that of FMS. You could, for example, work with a professor to publish a paper or write a case study as part of your course.
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What is the median base salary offered in IIM Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Kolkata, Lucknow, Indore & Kozikode?

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Honey Kumar Posted On : January 9th, 2023
Studied at Indian Institute of Management Raipur (Graduated 2021)

Not every IIM discloses the placement statistics to the public. But we can definitely say that IIM Ahmedabad has the best placement statistics.

Institute 

Median Salary 

IIM Ahmedabad 

INR 31.49 LPA

IIM Bangalore 

INR 31.20 LPA

IIM Kolkata 

INR 31 LPA

IIM Lucknow 

INR 29 LPA

IIM Indore 

INR 24.09 LPA

IIM Kozhikode 

INR 26.5 LPA

The table above has tabulated the median CTCs of the institutes you asked for.


 

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I have done part time MBA from IIM Lucknow (WMP), Is it okay to apply for PGPX courses at IIM A/B/C?

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Sonal Agarahari Posted On : January 9th, 2023
IPM from Indian Institute of Management Rohtak (Expected 2024)

No, I wouldn’t recommend you apply for a PGPX course at IIM A B or C if you have completed a part-time MBA from IIM Lucknow. The reason is the huge overlap of electives in almost all the programs offered at IIMs. Leaving a few courses most of which are repeated in all the programs be it part-time or full-time.

Towards the end of the course, you might end up spending a hefty fee and lots of time and yet not learning anything new. If anything you might just get placed at a better firm. But that too will be useless if you are unable to harness the acquired knowledge and skills in the open market. The question is if your job will be worth your year lost, your lost opportunities, and 25-30 lakhs of loan.

Still, if you want to pursue the course go for a top MBA course abroad. That might make a difference in your resume and job prospects.

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